Disclaimer: I do not have any current plans on studying or working overseas so I don’t exactly know the disparity between each course overseas and whether a university’s reputation affect it in any way. He obtained his Ph.D. degree from the school of computing at National University of Singapore in 2019, under the supervision of Prof. Bingsheng He. From what my SIT intern colleagues has told me, it seems like SIT have a bigger emphasis on technical hands-on experience. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. We view the domain of technology and design as an emerging force rather than an established practice. I'm so confused and desperately need advise. Now that you are planning to enter the IT/Engineering industry, I think it's important to note that a uni's prestige is probably only going to help you slightly for your first job in this industry. The education partnership has ended, but courses that were co-designed with MIT still remain a major part of the curriculum. Out of these four groups, two received participation awards, one received a merit award, and one won the 3M Best Project Award under the Mathematics / Computer Science category. Dr. Ooi Beng Chin. I will say 2 facts and 1 opinion: (1) NUS CS is definitely ranked better internationally. I personally feel that because SUTD makes us do a whole lot of projects, both solo and in groups, we end up having a pretty good ability to think on the fly and do good work. He shares his views on the future of architecture, his passion for the field and how he prepares his students to be able to take in the challenges that the world offers. In this post, I would like to share some of the events that took place during fall semester in KAIST. SUTD Library acquires ebooks from this platform on a title-by-title basis for course, reference, and general reading. SUTD's program is on the other hand decidedly more vocational, preparing you for an industry job (although they have some SHARP extra program which prepares you for research as well). Firstly, Congratulations on your acceptances! There’s some truth to that for algorithms. It also depends on the specialisation and concentrations that one intends to do. Are you in ISTD? Why this mattered in my choice of university is that I wanted a place that taught me more than just how to put things together. Don’t forget SMU who’s gonna offer both CS and IS as well as specific tracks in AI/Analytics/Security etc.. (PM me for more information). NUS Focuses more on theoretical in depth knowledge of computer science whereas SUTD covers the fundamentals and focuses on applying such computer science knowledge in various areas with many more projects being done. In stark contrast, ISTD students take only 14 CS-related courses in their 8 semesters. From my perspective, university is all about learning. He is currently a postdoctoral researcher at Technische Universität Berlin working with Prof.Volker Markl on the topic of data stream processing and management. Can attest about management. What really matters is your ability to learn on the job, your ability to work with others, as well as (obviously) any technical skills you can bring to the role. It encompasses latest research findings, both applied and fundamental. Prof wise there’s fair share of good ones and bad ones, but be prepared to depend on yourself to cover what’s not covered, though many of peers will be more than willing to help. Aquinas Hobor (National University of Singapore) – Ramification and Other Stories April 15, 2013 2:00 pm – 3:00 pm Venue: SUTD Lecture Theatre 5 (Building 2, Level 5) While SMU exposes students to more business courses, SUTD makes general sciences, design and humanities courses mandatory for all students. I had an excellent algorithms lecturer while others just copied text from the textbook. It noted that graduates from 12 courses in business, computer science, engineering, science and law achieved improvement in starting salaries. Also i don't know much about SUTD. The academics at SUTD are concentrated in 4 fields namely Computer Science, Architecture, Systems Engineering or Engineering. Feel free to change my mind. I am fortunate to say that in my uni life, I have mostly done what I wished to do. You have to grind through a good amount of leetcode problems if you’re looking to get into any kind of prestigious company. nus cs is an academic degree in computer science; yes, it is applicable to industry but the primary objective is to prepare you for a PhD. Jun received Bachelor and PhD degrees in computing science from National University of Singapore (NUS) in 2002 and 2006. Lastly, DigiPen is actually a very legit option. How is it there? Do you have any friends/ know anyone who went there for CS specifically but were not already interested in game dev? Each university shall issue a transcript for their respective courses, with a remark indicating that the candidate has taken certain modules at the other university, where applicable. How good was that project in preparing you? Distinguished Professor of Computer Science at National University of Singapore (NUS) Programme Lead. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Wᴇʟᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ʀ/SGExᴀᴍs – the largest community on reddit discussing Singapore schools and examinations. The table below lets you see how the two top universities in Singapore directly compare for each subject. (2) I won't comment on SUTD since I don't know much about their curriculum. Preparing Doctors to be Future Healthcare Leaders. KAIST-POSTECH Science War Archrivals KAIST and Postech compete in sports and cyber hacking competitions during this two-day event. Think about what would be best for you :) It's your life after all. I only have 2 more days to accept/reject my NUS offer. Co-Investigator. SUTD-NUS PhD Jyothsna joined The Fermart Lab in 2016 as NUS-SUTD PhD fellow. You mentioned that you're looking to gain work experience, and judging by your concern about SUTD, you probably want to work overseas. It doesn't make sense for us to help you decide at all. I would say the teaching quality is not there, but take this with a grain of salt because I was never good at academics side. Makes sense, thanks. But he has complained to me that his projects are often surface level, and the exam stress can get insurmountable. The number of course places taken up NUS for AY 2020/2021 is shown in Table 3. Don't focus on the prestige, but focus on which uni fits ur learning style and the overall environment you want to be in! IMO, its the exact same situation over at NUS. Bonus: we don’t have an alpha computing prof giving out dubious love advice. I am on my final year, so far school has not taught me anything useful for work. Now as for relevance with the industry, the interview process in our industry is broken. National University of Singapore (NUS) is ranked among the world’s best for a total of 36 out of a possible 46 subjects, while Nanyang Technological University (NTU) is ranked for 31 subjects. You’ll also have to understand that the pedagogy for SUTD is vastly different from the typical university route in Singapore, having common mods among students in the first year and then moving on to deciding which pillar (and then specialisation) to study. I suppose the takeaway is this: Choosing uni is not a question of mechanical benefit. Singapore’s global superstar, the National University of Singapore (NUS) is currently ranked 11 th in the QS World University Rankings, and first in the QS Asia University Rankings 2021. NUS also tends to attract people who are already decent programmers. © Esᴛᴀʙʟɪsʜᴇᴅ MMXVII, Press J to jump to the feed. Also are the projects mostly team based or individual? We spent an afternoon with Professor Erwin Viray, Head of Pillar, Architecture and Sustainable Design. SUTD guy over here. Press J to jump to the feed. What about SIT software engineering? In 2007, he received the prestigious Lee Kuan Yew postdoctoral fellowship in School of Computing of NUS. Basic Salary Of Graduates From National University of Singapore (NUS) Degree From NUS Median Salary; Faculty of Arts & Social Sciences: Bachelor of Arts: ... (Computer Science) $5,000: Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) N.A. Never consider it? Bear in mind that NTU is a much newer university than NUS, something which probably explains the generally higher quality of NUS. You really have to look quite deep into it. She is passionate about understanding the properties of different types of materials and how they can be applied to the domain of living or biological systems. And that pushes you on to great things. operations management, finance and marketing), economics, statistics, and public policy. Biography. The ESD curriculum prepares students well for advanced studies beyond the undergraduate level. The school put more emphasis on researches, so the profs there are better at researching than teaching. Whereas NUS has already established itself NTU is still finding its place in the world. Biz vs biz, Psych vs Psych etc. If you want less rote learning, you can choose classes which are more project-based. Skills matter! nus cs is an academic degree in computer science; yes, it is applicable to industry but the primary objective is to prepare you for a PhD. It's regarding NUS CS focus area. I did my undergrad at SUTD having also considered applying for NUS and so please note that my response is probably going to be biased towards SUTD. Program. After that, it really depends on the skills that you have picked up and your portfolio! The SMU-Duke-NUS Medicine Pathway develops future clinicians who will bring with them a solid understanding and appreciation of the operations of a hospital or healthcare eco-system. Between NUS and SUTD, which would you say better prepares students without programming background? 12:20 – 12.30 Welcome Address Dr Low Hong Yee, Associate Prof. Engineering Product Development, Singapore University of Technology and Design (SUTD); 12:30 – 12:45 Why STEM Is Unattractive to Women: A Comparison Study of STEM Education in Japan and USA This paper mainly explores the reasons why females so persistently stay away from computer science, which is one of … Do you feel like SUTD, owing to the smaller size, has less opportunities for e.g going on exchange, getting work experience etc? How is the teaching quality on average? Like what the poster above me has said, Uni has not taught me anything useful for work. As an international student myself, I must however acknowledge that NUS is obviously a far more reputed institution worldwide (I've lost count of the number of times I've had to explain where I'm studying to friends and family). Access a diverse range of high-quality academic content spanning 17 subject areas, such as Asian Studies, Chemistry, Computer Science, Environmental Science, Engineering, Materials Science, Mathematics and Nanoscience. Most people admitting to SUTD already have a good reason for wanting to enroll in the university be it projects, entrepreneurship, or overseas opportunities. I hear mixed comments abt NUS and mostly positive abt SUTD. If your priority is getting into the higher ranked school (and thus a higher chance of getting into FANG or something), then NUS is your friend. I can't thank you enough! Some courses are better at NTU than at NUS. Just want to add that nus cs and sutd's istd are just very different courses in general. I have friends working all over the world now, and (in my experience) most tech companies don't particularly care if you're from a venerable institution with a celebrated history or a young upstart university. You go to the best to seek out fellow talents. NUS Computing, School of Computing, National University of Singapore, NUS, Singapore Universities Rather, given my priorities at the time, I felt that SUTD was the university that gave me the most leeway to experiment and learn different techniques that could potentially be useful later on in work/life. If wanna compare must compare in the narrower sense. I'm inclined towards SUTD but not sure if it is well reputed outside of Singapore. ISTD combines the teaching of Information Systems and Computer Science with focus on computing, systems and intelligence to prepare students for a wide range of computing and management careers in a variety of industries. As far as SUTD goes I do not know too much about it, but it is a more design focussed university. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I went on exchange to UC Davis and the teaching quality was so-so, not terrible but not great either. Now I'm not implying that NUS or any other university does not do that. I haven't heard much about SIT in terms of its reputation. The SUTD-Duke-NUS Special Track nurtures future clinicians with a foundation in engineering or architecture who can think creatively and work across disciplines. Hey Ice Cookie, congrats on your offers! Agreed, I learnt so much more in my fyp year than my previous years combined. Thank you for this post!! What do you think about what one of the others commenters said i.e the administration is going downhill? Welcome to /r/singapore the reddit home of the country Singapore. SUTD advances knowledge and nurtures technically-grounded leaders and innovators, with a focus on design, through multi-disciplinary curriculum and research. Bachelor of Computing ... SUTD 2018 Graduate Employment Survey by the Ministry of Education. ESD graduates will qualify for a wide range of local and international graduate programmes in operations research, industrial engineering, systems engineering, business (e.g. It really depends on the course. Note that I didn't really care about repute, nor ranking, nor difficulty of entry. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Yitao Han (Bachelor from Zhejiang University), SUTD-NUS Joint PhD student, 2016/9-Xinping Xu, (Bachelor from Nanjing University), PhD student, Engineering Systems and Design Pillar, SUTD, 2015/9- 2020/8. Mostly self sourced? University choice is a matter of fit, which is to say, how much you'd enjoy your time there. Graduate from SUTD here. If anyone has done exchange in overseas unis how does it compare? Just passing through and saw this opinion of yours! This is so inspiring! -Inian Parameshwaran, NUS computer science, 2014 Before entering NTU, I was excited about being a student in a world-class university with a vibrant campus life. I'm a TA in NUS CS. That's why I chose SUTD. I personally wanted to be able to build things myself, to see from the ground up how complex systems are designed. I’ve a good number of peers from each university, and here some of the things I’ve discovered. I am pursuing part time computer science degree at NTU and working as a senior software engineer. This opinion is common among my friends who are from NTU. Thanks! I know for SUTD they have a bigger emphasis on project work, but for NUS and NTU is there a lot of rote learning? The aim of such integration and focus is to offer you the flexibility to acquire a strong Thank god for OCW or else loads of us will fail big time. Any advise would be highly appreciated. When I was applying to universities all over the world, I told myself that I wanted to go to a place where I could. What would you say was the mix between rote learning/exams and projects in your courses at NUS CS? Do you've any experience forming this opinion? I have no doubt all of them are wicked smart, but being smart doesn’t necessarily translate into being good at teaching. Hi! 1. Nus may give you a slight headstart when you are applying for your first job overseas but in SG, it really doesn't make a diff! PLS help me decide. Just want to add that nus cs and sutd's istd are just very different courses in general. The degree awarded to all successful candidates is identical except that a candidate may use the title of either Ph.D. (NUS-SUTD) or Ph.D. (SUTD-NUS) with his/her home university mentioned first. NUS CS. My brother is in NUS now, and I can tell you pretty confidently that he's having a great time, learning a lot. We don’t release admissions information but I would hope we have such data to determine the demographics of the people coming. the people you'll mix with will be some of the most hardworking hustlers you'll see. Shuhao Zhang will be joining ISTD Pillar of SUTD as a faculty in early 2021. ISTD integrates the traditional disciplines of Computer Science, Computer Engineering and Information Systems - focusing on the design of systems that interact with both humans and machines. Bachelor of Engineering (Information Systems Technology and Design). SUTD is well-known for its research facilities such as the Lee Kuan Yew Centre for Innovative Cities, the iTrust Research Centre, and the SUTD-MIT International Design Centre. Though I have a hunch there’s a slant towards females. SUTD's program is on the other hand decidedly more vocational, preparing you for an industry job (although they have some SHARP extra program which prepares you for research as … Not so sure if NUS prepares you better than SUTD for the industry. I do remember on the open day though that they said in your capstone project you actually make something for a real company in your team. I recall that it was […] SINGAPORE - The Singapore University of Technology and Design (SUTD) will partner Duke-NUS Medical School to offer an SUTD-Duke-NUS Special Track to … YMMV and all the best! However here in Singapore, many employers tend not to discriminate between university computer science degrees and look at the individual on what s/he has done. In 2010, he joined Singapore University of Technology and Design as an Assistant Professor. I thought SMU is better known for the business and marketing, even for IS. Within the QS World University Rankings by Subject, NUS displays a breadth of high performance which can be rivalled by very few universities in the world. They tend to produce some of the most skilful technical artists every year. I've worked with self-taught programmers and I generally prefer to work with CS grads; while the self-taught ones may know how to code in the sense that the code compiles and the feature works (mostly), their knowledge lacks a certain rigour e.g. A strong foundation in algorithms and software engineering will serve you well in the tech industry, but you definitely need internship experience no matter what. PILLAR OVERVIEW Information Systems Technology and Design (ISTD) pillar focuses on information and computing technologies and its relationship with the world. It seems that the unis that are less focused on research have better teaching quality and vice versa. You’ll have to decide for yourself whether this is what you want to be doing or not. Well, there should be little to no trouble there, so long as you do well in school. Between NUS and SUTD, which would you say better prepares students without programming background? I am enticed by SUTD's focus on real-world applications and projects (which I think would help beef up portfolios for those with no prior experiences) but I am also drawn to the proven curriculum and high quality peers in NUS (which would make it easier for me to get help and improve my standards) Cookies help us deliver our Services. Please refer to Table 2 for the Polytechnic GPAs of the 10th and 90th percentiles of polytechnic applicants offered places for courses at NUS in AY 2020/2021. I can tell you for an important subject it is jammed through and the importance of algorithms in modern day computing is not reflected in the quality of the curriculum. I've heard of this about teaching quality at many research focused unis even overseas, even Cambridge and one university in Canada I got into as well. I'm an international student looking to gain work experience. I have also received undergraduate merit scholarship at SUTD which covers abt 50% of my tuition fees. Having high quality peers is a pretty good perk, especially for average students. NUS has the most ‘feature-packed’ curriculum, with plenty of specialisation and double degree options. Professor, School of Computer Science and Engineering, Nanyang Technological University (NTU) Dr. Zhu Feida. Point is don't be swayed by people telling you this and that. In comparison, quite a handful enter ISTD without programming background every year. Biography Ashraf Kassim is Associate Provost for Graduate Studies and a Professor with the Information Systems Technology and Design (ISTD) pillar at This will be dependant on the faculty members of the division. Teaching quality will vary wildly by professor. Thank you so much in advance! I'm also a prospective freshman at SUTD, still waiting to hear back from NUS, I'm also in a similar confusion. This compares with the median gross salaries of mechanical engineering, industrial systems engineering and computer science graduates from the National University of Singapore (NUS… By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Hi! :) Feel free to dm me if you have any qs! And how much support from NUS do you get in finding internships? ... (ISTD) pillar, Singapore University of Technology and Design (SUTD) Dr. Dusit Niyato. [Xinping was a Visiting Scholar at Purdue University in 2019.] I am enticed by SUTD's focus on real-world applications and projects (which I think would help beef up portfolios for those with no prior experiences) but I am also drawn to the proven curriculum and high quality peers in NUS (which would make it easier for me to get help and improve my standards). I.e. It is important to note that the number of course places changes from year to year. Master of Computing - Computer Science Specialisation The Master of Computing programme is a comprehensive and challenging graduate programme with area specialisations. Ultimately you need practical, industry-oriented skills to thrive in the job market! What you've learned in primary and secondary school are the basic building blocks but uni is where you begin to actually start putting things together. If you have different priorities like I did, then maybe SUTD would be good for you. I've considered DigiPen but I'm not into game development or art particularly, so I'm worried their courses may not be relevant/suited to me. I'd recommend that you take some time and write down what you really want to get out of your uni life, and then choose accordingly. Culture - historically, the NUS CS program tends to attract the crazy people. 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